NET 11 - Learning Log of the Advanced Internet User

Module 4 & Tasks

Using the infosphere: taking & organising

11/02/2008

As we have discussed, the most important things to look for in 'additional tools' are:

• cost - and, indeed, in most cases look for free products
• ease of use - can you use it easily (while recognising that you may need to learn to use programs)
• functionality - does it do what it needs to if it is to be effective (ie if a single vital element is missing, an other wise 'good' program is useless)
• utility - does the program increase your effectiveness (saving time, in particular, or allowing you to do something previously not done)
• commonality - is the program becoming 'standard' or at least common.

6 of February 11, 2008

In your learning log record which programs you downloaded and note which (if any) facets you think might prove useful.

I do apologize for the unchronological order of the this log but as the situation with reinstalling the OS on my laptop I thought of redoing the module 4 tasks.

Tools for using the web

compare the two in your learning log.

I’ve downloaded the exe file as requested and allowed adobe add-ons in my mozilla browser.

2. Flash/Shockwave Players

I did have Flash and/or Shockwave.

3. Media Players

At some stage I did have all of the listed players but for this task I’ve downloaded Real One cause I already have win media player and I’m not a mac user.

I can compare winup and media player.

Usually every player that we download has a trial version or has limited features.

For this task I managed with great difficulties to download Real One and Quicktime Player because my dsl account was shaped so instead of the poor 64 KB/sec I was getting half of it.

Choose your connection speed I hesitated not to click dial-up instead of broadband because the actual speed is worse than dial-up.

Installation went with no problems. I was careful to untick the features that I won’t need or be using. I listened to the ilecture on webc.

I downloaded Quicktime Player from the ilecture site when I choose to listen with Q. It gave me the option to save the link and download for free the player.

15/2/2008

1. Search Manager/Combiners

Glooton link was on French so I wasn’t able to understand how much I tried so I did a search on Google but no success.

I’ve downloaded Copenic desktop search for windows.

Enlightening !

This looks very good and useful tool. Such an interesting search tool. Did search of the web and both things in my pc. You can do a search both within the web and your local folders. I tested by doing a search with the keyword ‘music’ and I got 55 matching documents.

6. Offline Browser/Copier:

I wasn’t quite surprised and didn’t find quite useful the buddybookmark or maybe I didn’t explore too much with it.

Wasn’t able to download WebCopier and PageSucker because they didn’t have a version for vista and I didn’t want to risk with the other versions.

I don’t think that I’ll be using any of those so I didn’t even try searching for other compatible tools.

PS. I’m still giving vista a chance although she didn’t make my life easier in a contrary made my life worse.

search engine task

For this task I’m going to use my main primary web search engine Google and Copernic. From the discussion board I’ve learned about others such Incywincy, CompletePlanet.com...

I used Clusty, Vivisimo

With the help of the discussion board I realised that it is ok that I couldn’t find to set Coperning to search with three web engines including the deep web.

My key word was FTP – File transfer protocol

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,850,000 for File transfer protocol [definition]. (0.14 seconds)

http://www.filesanywhere.com/?REF_ID=2002

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol

http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid7_gci213976,00.html

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc959.html

http://www.ftpplanet.com/ftpresources/basics.htm

Copernic gave 4 sponzored links and 43 search results

Sponzored ones were no related with the FTP.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc959.html

http://www.ncftp.com/libncftp/doc/ftp_overview.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol

http://www.ftpplanet.com/ftpresources/basics.htm

http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/File_Transfer_P.htm?iam=momma_100_SKD&terms=%22file+transfer+protocol%22

Do search with

http://turbo10.com/

http://www.incywincy.com/search-engine/web/web?q

http://aip.completeplanet.com/aip-engines/browse?thisPage=%2Fbrowse%2Fbrowse.jsp&successPage=%2Fbrowse%2Fbrowse.jsp&errorFlag=&errorMsg=&event=loadPageEvent&directPage=&directSection=4&treeQueryExpr=&treeQueryType=phrase&treeQueryTarget=tree

vivisimo, clusty, yahoo..

Boolean

For this task I needed to make the best search with my required key word therefore I used the Boolean logic for searching on the Internet. I couldn’t do much search for academic sources cause the nature of the actual FTP  

My key words were  ‘file transfer protocol NOT internet tools’.

I got what I needed with getting the most relevant information.

My result :

http://www.iucr.org/cww-top/int.ftp.gen.html 

http://www.techtrainteam.com/services/olt/internet/ftp-0.html

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc959

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2389

I can’t say that they are academic but all of them except the Wikipedia one I can use as reference.

I wonder why Google gave me Wikipedia result with SSH file transfer protocol instead of just FTP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol

• the biggest number of hits relating to these key words

ftp NOT internet tools 174,000

file transfer protocol OR FTP 3,230,000

internet tools AND FTP 747,000

internet tools OR ftp 748,000

Very interesting is to note that FTP and file transfer protocol gives different numer of result

FTP 276,000,000

File transfer protocol 4,420,000

For my annotaded bibliography I mainly searched for academic sites on the Oasis Gecko Database. That was very convenient and easy and in short time I found qualitative resource that I needed.

I will conclude that I need to do more practice to manage through other search engines to manage to do the same.

http://www.techtrainteam.com/services/olt/internet/ftp-0.html

I chose Technology Training Team because it’s a company with over 20 years experience in developing and training in elementary, secondary and

university level. It's staff is composed by educators with over 50 years of experience.

For the nature of the company, the purpose of the website is to inform, never to persuade, visitors to buy a specific product or anything else.

References are not provided but there's a link to contact the technical team.

Content is always neutral, not written to persuade or influence visitors.

There's no info about "update date" but for the topic I'm talking about, FTP, there's no need to check info against any date since the article it's

about general introduction and principles haven't changed since its creation.

Many websites link to www.techtrainteam.com (On Google type: “link: www.techtrainteam.com”)

http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid7_gci213976,00.html

Searchnetworking is one of the largest online communities dedicated to enterprise networking. Even though the website is filled with advertisements it’s considered one of the best website for IT related news, technical tips and valuable tests on both hardware and software.

Info are short but clear and even though there are not references available, they do show many technical articles about the same topic to give the opportunity to the visitors to compare the info against different sources.

The “last updated date” is always at the end of the article.

The website has many websites linking to it (On Google type:

“link: searchnetworking.techtarget.com”)

NET 11 - Learning Log of the Advanced Internet User

Module 3 & Tasks

Contributing to the Infosphere: e-writing?

19/01/2008

This was a very new experience for me so I've copied and pasted some important things from the module so I can refer to them later.

Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox for October 1, 1997:

How Users Read on the Web

• highlighted keywords (hypertext links serve as one form of highlighting; typeface variations and color are others)
• meaningful sub-headings (not "clever" ones)
• bulleted lists
• one idea per paragraph (users will skip over any additional ideas if they are not caught by the first few words in the paragraph)
• the inverted pyramid style, starting with the conclusion
• half the word count (or less) than conventional writing

Combined version
using all three improvements in writing style together: concise, scannable, and objective 124% !!!!!!!!!!

http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7ewebteach/articles/text.html

Writing style

• Summarize first. Put the main points of your document in the first paragraph, so that readers scanning your pages will not miss your point.
• Be concise. Use lists rather than paragraphs, but only when your prose lends itself to such treatment. Readers can pick out information more easily from a list than from within a paragraph.
• Write for scanning. Most Web readers scan pages for relevant materials rather than reading through a document word by word. Guide the reader by highlighting the salient points in your document using headings, lists, and typographical emphasis.

Chunking

• Access. Your content list should already be composed of information chunks, because the definition of a content item is any piece of information that needs to be accessed individually. Consider how users will interact with your materials: What items will they want to access directly? Define your information chunks to accommodate the expected usage patterns of your users.
• Page length. Chunking provides a way to limit the length of your Web pages: Web readers generally prefer shorter pages. Don't arbitrarily divide a document, however, and don't divide a document that is likely to be printed anyway (see next entry).
• Printing. Don't break your narrative into small segments if you expect that most users will want to print the information. Documents are easier to print from a single Web page. Or, if usage is difficult to predict, offer both a Web version and a link to an easy-to-print page or printing alternative, such as a downloadable PDF file.

There are also hazards to watch for when chunking information:

• Fragmentation. Be careful not to over-subdivide your information. If you break up your information into many small chunks, your readers will be overwhelmed and frustrated by too many choices. You will also find it hard to create a coherent narrative if the information chunks are too specific to make sense out of context.
• Redundancy. If you provide a comprehensive narrative for each information segment, you are going to be redundant. Don't resort to an incomplete presentation of your materials or to excessive use of links (see next entry) in order to avoid repeating yourself. It's okay - even necessary - to be redundant when writing for the Web.
• Excessive linking. Web authors often try to avoid redundancy by using links. Instead of providing a full account on one page, they sprinkle the page with links to other pages, either within their site or elsewhere. These linked pages are employed to supply the reader with the context needed to understand the materials. A well-constructed information chunk, however, provides a complete account of the subject, with an appropriate amount of background, and links to pages providing supporting information. Readers should not have to follow links to gain an understanding of the information; the links are for those who wish to pursue the topic, or some aspect of the topic, further.

Page length

Links

• Visual distraction. Colored and underlined text within body text pulls the eye by disrupting the uniformity of the text block. If you place a link within a paragraph, the user's eye will be drawn to the link. Many users will click on that link directly without ever reading the text that forms its context.
• Disruption of narrative. Links lead to stories half-told. If halfway though your account you offer a link to another site, users may follow the link (and another link and another) and never return to your site.
• Lack of context. When readers follow a link, they move from the contextual framework of your site into unfamiliar territory. Users also may not be able to ascertain the connection between the materials on your site and the linked site. This plunge from the known to the mysterious can frustrate and bewilder users.

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213392,00.html

http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/

HTML tags

For this task I went through the html tutorials and managed with big excitement to create my first html. I uploaded my html together with my foto in the presentation page.
For the first time looked easy and interesting creating the things that a simple user doesn't understand but it made me think if I am going to be able to do this most of the time.

Combined version
using all three improvements in writing style together: concise, scannable, and objective

20/01/08

Important ‘rules’ for writing online:

1. On the very first view page should look simple and neat but concise and deep on the other hand to give the information or to tell the story.
2. Keywords and type techniques
3. Links within the context of information or full story
   

http://www.rebeccablood.net/handbook/excerpts/weblog_ethics.html

1. Publish as fact only that which you believe to be true.

2. If material exists online, link to it when you reference it.

3. Publicly correct any misinformation.

4. Write each entry as if it could not be changed; add to, but do not rewrite or delete, any entry.

5. Disclose any conflict of interest.

6. Note questionable and biased sources.

I tried validating my html on W3C and got error Forbidden as it was noted in the tutorial.

Html is copyrighted by me :) and doesn't break any privacy laws. The foto included is in my ownership.

22/01/2008

After the loss of my complete D:drive with amost 12 GB I needed to take some action to fix my laptop cause I've realised the importance of having it. I need to take care of it as he is of a grait use for me.

I didn't manage uploading my html on the oasis page due to very slow connection and lack of time. I did ping test and I am receiving only 2 packages out of 4. I am changing my plan from tomorrow.
GB have becomed MB.


30/01/2008

I have thoughts of changing blogger into some other host just to test but there was not time for it. I had issues posting my annotaded bibliography and didn't wanted the same to happen. The formating is the problem inspite of the goot tools that blogger has.

NET 11 - Learning Log of the Advanced Internet User

MODULE 2 & tasks

10/12/2007

Communicating in the Infosphere

http://www.washington.edu/pine/

http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue4_5/nardi_chapter4.html

Email Tasks

It never happened to me that I received attachment that I never decoded maybe because all of my senders use windows and mainly send me extensions that are widely used. I sure have received emails with missing attachments and I was wondering how the person managed to lose the attachment. I know that by clicking forward you can include the attachment in your email but it made me think how this attachment got lost. It can be due to different mail clients, the extension of the file or simply the person didn’t include the file/attachment. I never had any issues with recipients not been able to open attachments except when the recipient has limited user applications and simply can’t open that extension file. From there on I usually send standard file extensions.

29/12/2007

Today I posted my opinion on the discussion board about

What are the pros and cons of email lists versus discussion boards?

Are there certain kinds of communication or purposes more suited to one than the other?

Author: Angelina Dimovska-Cicimova Date: Saturday, December 29, 2007 09:40

Took me long time to get to some pros and cons about discussion boards

and email lists manly cause I've never used them before so up to this

moment I can't tell much, just my short term beginner experience.

Discussion board looked very informative and interesting at the

beginning, than I got used to it so I was consuming the posts easy but

now not anymore. Now it annoys me that it looks a little bit unorganized

& confusing because lots of same issues are spread by different subjects

but they are talking about the same issues. Very time consuming.

At some stage I was spending too much time trying to understand the

problems and solutions that I've never faced with therefore I've find a

way to have a quick informational look at the discussion board and

really post something if it's necessary.

Most of the time I feel this pressure writing about something just

because I need to be included & show interest. I do read the discussion

board but sometimes I'm not able to help or don't have anything to comment.

Lists & Newsgroups bring the message or information needed more clearly

in a way just because of their structure. It takes time while getting

them & the info might be old but I can't lose track & I'm better

organized. Was hard finding the right filed of interest because lots of

adverts and spam but will explore further...

Angelina

Sender is the origin of a message but in cases email has been forwarded we can see all the senders in the body or where it all began. If it was

http://email.about.com/od/emailnetiquette/a/cc_and_bcc.htm

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/workcareer/computerinternet/computers/qas/0,,616742_616746,00.html

http://www.iwillfollow.com/email.htm

Lists

I did my list after long refusal and showing no interest about it. I simply would like to get to the desired information in a faster possible way and less time spend infront of the laptop.

http://lists.topica.com/dir/?cid=159

I’ve created a login & selected entertainment from the directory and went to food & drink.

Joined Read 'em and Weep Food Facts (Read 'em & Weep)

With enormous support and help from David J. who I need to give a medal for his knowledge, excellent teaching methods, time effort I joined group on google

I joined Macedonia J

Later I found out that it was a politically oriented group and it a certain question of the name of my origin country. Didn’t have much luck so I unsubscribed. No issues with unsubscribing.

I found another Macedonian group and I try joining. They asked for a membership.

Memebership!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve send short message to inform that I’m former student of them & would like to get approval to be a member

Waiting…

Was surprised how much stuff it has for everything else except topic related things. I didn’t find anything interesting to read.

I never received membership from this group. After a while I received an email asking me who I am and why do I need this membership. I was surprised of the way of communication J

After thorough explanation what I study and the purpose of the task I received a nice respond that basically the group was created just for the purposes of students of a course but they never got to use it.

That was a quite funny experience.

28/12/07

Today I’ve received my first group mails! Very pleased. I’ve created a folder & created a rule so all the emails from that sender to go to the folder. There was 1 new message so I went through.

Chat

ICQ

I’ve been using ICQ for a long time so I already had an account

• find the ICQ number for the nickname advanced netstudies

Found & added! Strange icon, little man walking instead of flower

• add ‘advanced netstudies’ to your contact list and note whether it is authorized automatically

Authorized automatically. No authorisation

• look at the user info for advanced netstudies and note the comment in the ‘about’ section

There is no ‘about’ in user info. Is this a trick? I know how about looks but there is nothing there.

13/12/07


Email Task

For this task I had open my oasis email account and my microsoft outlook which has my gmail account configured. I have read and reviewed all the basic email functions with the Email Tutorial given in the module.

Answers to quiz questions

http://peoplesearch.lycos.com/
I've searched for Angelina Dimovska Sydney knowing that the search is for USA. In the results I got 3 persons named Angelce Dimovska :) I've clicked to see Advanced Locater and there were charges to pay to get those info. It was interesting to see that besides the Advanced Locator
you can get Instant Criminal Search and Background Check.
I found the all product search
http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/allproducts.jsp?searchFName=Angelina&searchMName=&searchLName=Dimovska&searchCity=Sydney&searchState=&searchApproxAge=31&
but couldn't find if I can find email contact.


1. What information about a user's email, the origin of a message, and the path it took, can you glean from an email message?



From the email above I can see firstly that it's a mail I'm receiving dayly due to my subscription. It is in my safe list although gmail isn't that sensitive to receiving emails.
There is an option 'show details' located next to the sender address that expands the informations for this email. From this email I can see that

from	learnersdictionary@merriam-webster.com
reply-to		learnersdictionary@merriam-webster.com,
to		machkabr1@gmail.com,
date		11 Jan 2008 09:39:01 -0000
subject		teeny-weeny: M-W's Learner's Word of the Day
mailed-by		drhinternet.net
signed-by		merriam-webster.com

2. In what cases would you find it useful to use the 'cc', 'bcc' and 'reply all functions of email?

'CC' or carbon copy is a function useful for including people that would find that email or information send useful or simply including other people. For formal purposes, a t work for example I would use CC to include my manager or team leader when I address to my colleagues when communicating over work related issues. I would include my agent when asking for a permition for a day off or holiday from my manager.
'BCC' or blanco carbon copy gave me lots of fun when I first discovered by receiving email that wasn't address to me but the sender has send it to himself :)
I use bcc with when I send some email to many recipients so others wont be able to see all my contacts. Simply a privacy thing.

3. In what ways can you ensure that an attachment you send will be easily opened by the receiver?

The attachments I usually send are mainly photos. What I am careful of is the size firstly and the format. My photos are jpeg format
I'm annoyed receiving pps files so I never send them.


4. What sorts of filters or rules do you have set up, and for what purpose?

My mail client is Outlook 2003 and I have both my gmail accounts configured.



5. How have you organised the folder structure of your email and why?

Gmail has one disadvantage that has no folders so you can't quite organise your emails in folders and make them more neat and easily found. Gmail has the function to

Outlook 2003
I had folders with created rules that perfectly give me organisation. What a useful tool

ICQ task

According to module 2 task I've used the search by name field and typed adv.net
Just one account appeared with no info.
With the threads, tutor & David I found out that there was a different account so I've searched for it with the number provided.

I couldn't join organised chat meeting 6th of Jan cause I was away on holiday but hopefully will attend to next one

NEWSGROPS
OUTLOOK!!!!!!!!!

Make a difference between list & newsgroup!

No experience with all 3

Issues with pc, D drive wiped off together with my outlook.
All folders…years of organised mail material gone!
I've started outlook 2003 again & returned to module task 2.
Create filter & newsgroups!!!!

11/01/2008

After going through the useful thread with subj:lists - are they worth it... From module 2
I've decided to join freecycle group on yahoo. By clicking first on the link provided from Shan on request of DJ, I visited the site and click go to. I've noticed that it's a yahoo provided group and asked for my account when I clicked join. Then I tried through join button and it generated email with the address. Email sent from my gmail account.

Please confirm your request to join freecycle_sydneycentral received!
Than I remembered of my yahoo account and registered with that. There are 3 steps to easely join.I'm in!
Now I'm thinking of the things I have to give just to be able to test & post something ;)

Today I've sent an email to my tutor asking to get some feedback about my work on the DB. I got a good feedback.

NET 11 - Learning Log of the Advanced Internet User

29/11/2007

Getting started, Welcome and Introduction

Hello!

Firstly I needed a lot of time to organize myself and manage with all this very new way of studying.
I've spent lots of time re-reading the discussion board, material and chatting with other students on MSN just collecting as much information as I can instead of taking baby steps and better organizing myself.
Anyway yesterday I've sent my introduction & few posts on the discussion board and sent emails to our tutor regarding the requested task and private email about the group blog.

Today I had some issues which email should we use in our communication, the WebCT or the OASIS Curtin one and still waiting for an answer.

In brief I should start getting serious and do some work in this Learning Log :)

Module 1 & Tasks

Telnet

It was interesting to find out that there is a complicated way to find telnet because I've always used start>run>telnet or 'windows'+R and type 'telnet'.
I already had Telnet on my laptop, there was no need to install.
I wasn't able to access library.deakin.edu.au after several attempts and wasn't worried cause I've already read that some of the students had the same issue so I'll retry later. I've tried directly accessing from the run prompt. Success!!!
First task finished, email sent!

Subject

Email from DEAKIN UNI LIB

telnet task You searched for the AUTHOR: bennahum 2 AUTHORS found, with 2 entries; AUTHORS 1-2 are: 1 Bennahum David A 1936 ................................. 1 entry 2 Bennahum Ninotchka .................................... 1 entry

towel.blinkenlights.nl was quite an experience. I played Star Wars - Thorne Room & Finale ;)

1/12/2007

FTP

I managed to easily download and connect to the server. No problems with login. Having troubles finding the file... Reading the guide...using the tutorial, actually trying to find what I'm a missing in my mission to find README file.
It was readme.txt
Not funny for a beginner.

http://www.ftpplanet.com/ftpresources/basics.htm



* ATTENTION MAC, OS/2, MS-DOS and MS-WINDOWS users:

This server runs on a unix platform, so CAPITALIZATION MATTERS!
A file named "file.txt" IS NOT THE SAME as "FILE.TXT"


2/12/2007

Internet Tools

I've known http://centralops.net/co/ due to the nature of my job & used this tools but haven't studied in depth. I'm familiar with tracerouts, nslookup, DNS and pinging. I use it often at work when troubleshooting with customers for no dataflow. Basically we need to collect this information to be able to diagnostic the problem and escalate to a higher level support.
It was easy for me to complete this task.

PING = Packet INternet Groper

start>run>cmd>ping curtin.edu.au

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Angie>traceroute/all curtin.edu.au
'traceroute' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Angie>ping curtin.edu.au

Pinging curtin.edu.au [134.7.179.53] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 134.7.179.53: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=117
Reply from 134.7.179.53: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=117
Reply from 134.7.179.53: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=117
Reply from 134.7.179.53: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=117

Ping statistics for 134.7.179.53:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 79ms, Maximum = 80ms, Average = 79ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Angie>

Ping	See if a host is reachable
Top of Form domain or IP address packets to send timeout (ms) data size (bytes) ttl (hops) don't fragment Bottom of Form
source code: view | download

Pinging 134.7.179.53 [134.7.179.53] with 32 bytes of data...

Results

count

ttl (hops)

rtt (ms)

from

1

112

252

134.7.179.53

2

112

252

134.7.179.53

3

112

249

134.7.179.53

4

112

249

134.7.179.53

Statistics

packets	sent	4
	received	4	100%
	lost	0	0%
times (ms)	min	249
	avg	250
	max	252

-- end --
URL for this output | return to CentralOps.net

The average time from http://centralops.net/co/ is 250

Traceroute

Traceroute	Trace the path from this server to another
Top of Form from centralops.net [70.84.211.98] to don't resolve IP addresses Bottom of Form
source code: view | download

Tracing route to 134.7.179.53 [134.7.179.53]...

hop

rtt

rtt

rtt

ip address

domain name

1

0

0

0

70.84.211.97

61.d3.5446.static.theplanet.com

2

0

0

0

70.84.160.162

vl2.dsr02.dllstx5.theplanet.com

3

0

0

0

70.85.127.109

po52.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com

4

0

0

0

70.87.253.21

et3-1.ibr03.dllstx3.theplanet.com

5

0

0

0

157.238.225.5

xe-4-4.r03.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

6

0

0

0

129.250.2.153

ae-2.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

7

*

*

8

129.250.3.130

as-0.r20.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

8

8

8

7

129.250.3.25

ae-0.r21.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

9

52

52

52

129.250.3.121

as-1.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

10

52

56

52

129.250.3.159

p16-1-0-0.r02.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

11

49

49

49

198.172.90.102

p4-4-1-0.r02.lsanca03.us.ce.gin.ntt.net

12

200

205

205

202.158.194.157

so-3-3-1.bb1.b.syd.aarnet.net.au

13

*

216

217

202.158.194.33

so-2-0-0.bb1.a.mel.aarnet.net.au

14

221

226

221

202.158.194.17

so-2-0-0.bb1.a.adl.aarnet.net.au

15

248

252

248

202.158.194.5

so-0-1-0.bb1.a.per.aarnet.net.au

16

252

250

252

202.158.198.178

gigabitethernet0.er1.curtin.cpe.aarnet.net.au

17

252

254

254

202.158.198.186

gw1.er1.curtin.cpe.aarnet.net.au

18

252

249

249

134.7.16.46

19

254

254

254

134.7.248.65

te1-1.b309-sr.net.curtin.edu.au

20

249

249

252

134.7.179.53

Trace complete

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I've played with all of the Utilities and Hosting metrics tools

http://network-tools.com/

Ping

Ping 134.7.179.53

[curtin.edu.au]

Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 246 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 246 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 250 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 250 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 251 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 246 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 250 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 250 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 250 ms
Round trip time to 134.7.179.53: 246 ms

Average time over 10 pings: 248.5 ms

Lookup

IP address: 134.7.179.53
Host name: curtin.edu.au
134.7.179.53 is from Australia(AU) in region Oceana

134.7.179.53 is from Australia(AU) in region Oceana

TraceRoute to 134.7.179.53 [curtin.edu.au]

Hop

(ms)

(ms)

(ms)

IP Address

Host name

1

5

0

0

66.98.244.1

gphou-66-98-244-1.ev1servers.net

2

0

0

0

66.98.241.13

gphou-66-98-241-13.ev1servers.net

3

1

1

1

129.250.11.137

ge-1-11.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

4

1

1

1

129.250.2.230

xe-0-1-0.r21.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

5

44

43

43

129.250.3.121

as-1.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

6

43

43

43

129.250.3.159

p16-1-0-0.r02.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

7

202

202

213

198.172.90.102

p4-4-1-0.r02.lsanca03.us.ce.gin.ntt.net

8

197

197

197

202.158.194.77

so-3-1-0.bb1.b.syd.aarnet.net.au

9

213

215

Timed out

202.158.194.33

so-2-0-0.bb1.a.mel.aarnet.net.au

10

224

223

223

202.158.194.17

so-2-0-0.bb1.a.adl.aarnet.net.au

11

251

249

246

202.158.194.5

so-0-1-0.bb1.a.per.aarnet.net.au

12

246

246

249

202.158.198.178

gigabitethernet0.er1.curtin.cpe.aarnet.net.au

13

246

249

246

202.158.198.186

gw1.er1.curtin.cpe.aarnet.net.au

14

246

249

246

134.7.16.46

-

15

249

248

246

134.7.248.65

te1-1.b309-sr.net.curtin.edu.au

16

251

252

246

134.7.179.53

-

Trace complete

WEBSITES :

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping
2. http://www.caida.org/~broido/png/ping0628.html
3. http://help.expedient.com/general/ping_traceroute.shtml (I've found this one very easy and interesting explained)
4. http://www.itools.com/internet/ (Brilliant! Well organised and easy to use. Here is the result of ping statistic

Ping

You may click on any highlighted header to get help.

Top of Form

Host name:
Packet count:	1 3 5 10
Time between packets (s):	1 2 3 4 5
Format results:	yes no

Bottom of Form

Sequence number	Answer from	Time To Live (TTL)	Delay
1	134.7.179.53	114	226.0
2	134.7.179.53	114	221.0
3	134.7.179.53	114	227.0
4	134.7.179.53	114	225.0
5	134.7.179.53	114	228.0

Packets		Loss	Delay
sent	received		minimum	average	maximum	mean deviation
5	5	0%	221.907	226.091	228.083	2.260

Traceroute

You may click on any highlighted header to get help.

Top of Form

Host name:
Traces count:	1 2 3 4 5
Resolve host names:	yes no

Bottom of Form

Host	Packet loss	Packets received	Packets sent	Best time (ms)	Average time (ms)	Worst time (ms)
tantale.fifi.org	0%	1	1	0.66	0.66	0.66
router-in.fifi.org	0%	1	1	1.15	1.15	1.15
er1.sfo1.speakeasy.net	0%	1	1	10.11	10.11	10.11
110.ge-0-0-0.cr1.sfo1.speakeasy.net	0%	1	1	29.06	29.06	29.06
100.ge-0-0-0.cr1.lax1.speakeasy.net	0%	1	1	17.97	17.97	17.97
ge-2-3-0.bb1.a.lax.aarnet.net.au	0%	1	1	19.04	19.04	19.04
so-3-3-1.bb1.b.syd.aarnet.net.au	0%	1	1	214.10	214.10	214.10
so-2-0-0.bb1.a.mel.aarnet.net.au	0%	1	1	189.18	189.18	189.18
so-2-0-0.bb1.a.adl.aarnet.net.au	0%	1	1	198.03	198.03	198.03
so-0-1-0.bb1.a.per.aarnet.net.au	0%	1	1	259.07	259.07	259.07
gigabitethernet0.er1.curtin.cpe.aarnet.net.au	0%	1	1	220.13	220.13	220.13
gw1.er1.curtin.cpe.aarnet.net.au	0%	1	1	224.37	224.37	224.37
134.7.16.46	0%	1	1	228.38	228.38	228.38
te1-1.b309-sr.net.curtin.edu.au	0%	1	1	224.31	224.31	224.31
134.7.179.53	0%	1	1	221.07	221.07

7/12/2007

For this task I needed to download A-Tool bar (freeware) from the given tucows but the link was broken so I googled the link and got my search. These are the print screens with the results from ping and trace curtin.com.au
It's obvious that the results is diferent because of the location. If the server is located in the same country the path will be shorter.